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	<title>Comments on: List For Less on MLS®</title>
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	<description>by Mike Fotiou, Associate Broker with First Place Realty</description>
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		<title>By: Lorrie</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1368</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lorrie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,

I was wondering if you knew of anyone offering a way to get their house on mls  (for a fee) without a sellers commission in our area?  We live in Comox, BC (Vancouver Island).

Thanks!

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&lt;strong&gt;Mike Fotiou says:  Email sent!&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I was wondering if you knew of anyone offering a way to get their house on mls  (for a fee) without a sellers commission in our area?  We live in Comox, BC (Vancouver Island).</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>-<br />
<strong>Mike Fotiou says:  Email sent!</strong></p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 02:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Mike,

More importantly, calgaryfinder.com has much more advantages then the MLS, welist, and thoise other sites. alteast you can get many good services for free on calgaryfinder, its just a matter of time before the mls buys out calgaryfinder]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mike,</p>
<p>More importantly, calgaryfinder.com has much more advantages then the MLS, welist, and thoise other sites. alteast you can get many good services for free on calgaryfinder, its just a matter of time before the mls buys out calgaryfinder</p>
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		<title>By: Newalgier</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Newalgier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 21:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good.  Like a Redfin for Calgary and I like it very much.  Well done, Mike.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good.  Like a Redfin for Calgary and I like it very much.  Well done, Mike.</p>
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		<title>By: Geer</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Geer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gulsen sure smells like an agent to me... upset and worried that some real competition is now on the block.  
My personal dealings with real estate agents? They are well put together, indeed, but no more informative than a prepared, private home seller.  90% of the time, the seller will know more about their own house that the agent... no surprise, living there and all.

Gulsen, you&#039;ll now have to show some real value added for that $15,000 commission!  That&#039;s 0.5 - 1.0 full years salary to some people (in after tax $$$), so a shiny suit and used car sales talk won&#039;t cut it anymore!!

$1000 is a reasonable price, maybe a bit high.  Gulsen&#039;s $2000 will drive people away... must think in real terms of value added.  It is, after all, just an advert.  Most buyers do also check Welist, regardless of the fewer listings.

All the power to you Mike!  Push for your rights to list, market this heavily, and you will personally take a large chunk of the market.   (Just assess the world of discount brokers and now nearly extinct of full service brokers!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gulsen sure smells like an agent to me&#8230; upset and worried that some real competition is now on the block.<br />
My personal dealings with real estate agents? They are well put together, indeed, but no more informative than a prepared, private home seller.  90% of the time, the seller will know more about their own house that the agent&#8230; no surprise, living there and all.</p>
<p>Gulsen, you&#8217;ll now have to show some real value added for that $15,000 commission!  That&#8217;s 0.5 &#8211; 1.0 full years salary to some people (in after tax $$$), so a shiny suit and used car sales talk won&#8217;t cut it anymore!!</p>
<p>$1000 is a reasonable price, maybe a bit high.  Gulsen&#8217;s $2000 will drive people away&#8230; must think in real terms of value added.  It is, after all, just an advert.  Most buyers do also check Welist, regardless of the fewer listings.</p>
<p>All the power to you Mike!  Push for your rights to list, market this heavily, and you will personally take a large chunk of the market.   (Just assess the world of discount brokers and now nearly extinct of full service brokers!)</p>
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		<title>By: Carioca Canuck</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Carioca Canuck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What if I just wanna list it on MLS for $995 and sell it myself........no agent needed at all ??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if I just wanna list it on MLS for $995 and sell it myself&#8230;&#8230;..no agent needed at all ??</p>
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		<title>By: Gulsen</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gulsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 20:16:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apparently some settlement has been reached, details unknown, but all MLS listings must still go through an agent, for now: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/real-estate-agents-keep-lock-on-mls---for-now/article1350537/

My opinion, if I were a seller I would actually be willing to pay more than $995 for all the services you provide and listing on MLS. Maybe you&#039;re kind of devaluating seller agents.  Market research, advise, materials, driving, showing, negotiating..many many possible hours if a listing lasts for several months. You are probably betting that the seller will have you represent them in their next purchase, which probably happens a lot right? I think you could charge more, like 1500-2000 and have it due on sale which sellers may actually prefer - no one loves to pay upfront fees. More risk, more reward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently some settlement has been reached, details unknown, but all MLS listings must still go through an agent, for now: <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/real-estate-agents-keep-lock-on-mls---for-now/article1350537/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/real-estate-agents-keep-lock-on-mls&#8212;for-now/article1350537/</a></p>
<p>My opinion, if I were a seller I would actually be willing to pay more than $995 for all the services you provide and listing on MLS. Maybe you&#8217;re kind of devaluating seller agents.  Market research, advise, materials, driving, showing, negotiating..many many possible hours if a listing lasts for several months. You are probably betting that the seller will have you represent them in their next purchase, which probably happens a lot right? I think you could charge more, like 1500-2000 and have it due on sale which sellers may actually prefer &#8211; no one loves to pay upfront fees. More risk, more reward.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Mills</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shawn Mills]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Property Guys Calgary will allow home owners to list for as low as $100.


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&lt;strong&gt;Mike Fotiou says:  That&#039;s their self-serve package:  a web listing, a sign, and 3 photos.  A Calgary search of PG&#039;s website shows only 63 listings in total. Might as well just post it on Kijiji, Craiglist, or CalgaryFinder for free.

If you really wanted to pay and still go the self-serve route, I think WeList would be a better choice for Calgarians in terms of market exposure - currently has 545 Calgary listings.
&lt;/strong&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Property Guys Calgary will allow home owners to list for as low as $100.</p>
<p>-<br />
<strong>Mike Fotiou says:  That&#8217;s their self-serve package:  a web listing, a sign, and 3 photos.  A Calgary search of PG&#8217;s website shows only 63 listings in total. Might as well just post it on Kijiji, Craiglist, or CalgaryFinder for free.</p>
<p>If you really wanted to pay and still go the self-serve route, I think WeList would be a better choice for Calgarians in terms of market exposure &#8211; currently has 545 Calgary listings.<br />
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		<title>By: Mike Fotiou</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Fotiou]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Gulsen, thanks for your question.

I will definitely be showing my seller&#039;s homes and be providing full representation throughout the entire process. I&#039;m just offering sellers more options with how they end up selling.  

This is a full-service listing less Open Houses and other marketing money wasters - savings the seller gets to pocket. 

The only way buyers would be dealing with the seller directly is if they contact them through a Sellers FSBO ad, etc, and again only if the Seller wants to deal directly with the buyer without an agent.  It&#039;s all about having options.

I&#039;ve added another Q&amp;A to clarify this issue, thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Gulsen, thanks for your question.</p>
<p>I will definitely be showing my seller&#8217;s homes and be providing full representation throughout the entire process. I&#8217;m just offering sellers more options with how they end up selling.  </p>
<p>This is a full-service listing less Open Houses and other marketing money wasters &#8211; savings the seller gets to pocket. </p>
<p>The only way buyers would be dealing with the seller directly is if they contact them through a Sellers FSBO ad, etc, and again only if the Seller wants to deal directly with the buyer without an agent.  It&#8217;s all about having options.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve added another Q&amp;A to clarify this issue, thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Gulsen</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gulsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting. So to clarify, you won&#039;t be offering to Show the house for sale - the seller must do all the showings themselves? 

I find people trying to sell their own homes often to be abnoxious, stubborn, and generally annoying to deal with and would much rather deal with their agent! That is one of the reasons agents exist, to be the middle man in an emotional transaction. Plus, don&#039;t they still have to abide by certain laws? For example, do sellers know they legally can not hide latent material defects? Will they remember all these rules as a trained agent would? I would be nervous dealing with sellers. The RE industry exists for good reason; agents should just lower their commissions a bit  if money&#039;s the issue!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. So to clarify, you won&#8217;t be offering to Show the house for sale &#8211; the seller must do all the showings themselves? </p>
<p>I find people trying to sell their own homes often to be abnoxious, stubborn, and generally annoying to deal with and would much rather deal with their agent! That is one of the reasons agents exist, to be the middle man in an emotional transaction. Plus, don&#8217;t they still have to abide by certain laws? For example, do sellers know they legally can not hide latent material defects? Will they remember all these rules as a trained agent would? I would be nervous dealing with sellers. The RE industry exists for good reason; agents should just lower their commissions a bit  if money&#8217;s the issue!</p>
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		<title>By: Norm Fisher</title>
		<link>http://calgaryrealestatereview.com/2009/11/03/list-for-less/#comment-1038</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Norm Fisher]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:09:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Mike.  I understand. Best wishes for well deserved success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Mike.  I understand. Best wishes for well deserved success.</p>
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